Goblet Grotto

By thecatamites - Added On 10/24/2012



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A mysterious cavern...
Filled with goblets...
Valuable goblets...
Wonderful goblets...
Retrieve the goblets...
Don't get eaten...
Don't get bludgeoned...
Don't get tired...
Don't get caught...
Collect the goblets...

GOBLET GROTTO
Freeware videogame & mystery pak by Stephen Gillmurphy and J Chastain
Wonderful music provided by NEW VADERS.
Instructions provided within package.
Mac version coming soon - you cannot change this.
Well, thanks for looking at our game.
Over 'n' out........................

 

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JellyGal
JellyGal 1 week ago
THIS GAME IS BRILLIANT!

It's an exploration-based game that kinda defies genre. The gameplay, while it can be pretty fun, is not the focus. The focus discovering new things. I'm not sure if it has an ending and I know I haven't explored all that it has to offer, but this game is absolutely massive. There's so much stuff to see in it. The hand-drawn character graphics are very cool and the environments are amazing and atmospheric. The music is awesome, too. It's also amazing how much effort was put in, there are tons and tons of "paragraphs" in the game's files that the game constantly refers to. It feels very interesting, like an old DOS game with important things packed with it. Strangely, it seems to like breaking that atmosphere in hilarious ways. For example, at one point I found a trapdoor that leads to a shop area, but you can't buy anything, the shop is ridiculous neon colours and everybody tries to kill you there. Then a giant monster appears out of thin air. (I later figured out that is the passage to another huge area in the grotto.)

Goblet Grotto is my favourite freeware game. If you're anything at all like me, you will LOVE this game. Highly, HIGHLY recommended.
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Ben Allen
Ben Allen 1 month ago
MANY GOBLETS WERE COLLECTED.
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Cubia
Cubia 11 months ago
Well, I was right, this turned out to be pretty interesting once I had a proper go at it. There's a couple of glitches and a couple of spots where your character can get caught in the geometry, but those were the only issues I found.

Wonderfully crazy and I like abstract artstyles like this. I like the area design in particular though. Whole thing reminds me of Cicada's "Crypt Worlds" game (which I also really enjoyed) though I had an easier time figuring everything out in that one.

I am figuring out some things as I go along, albeit slowly. Though it took me some time to think to look in that file and see what the glyphs meant. I dont quite get what "pray" does though. But I shall figure it out. Eventually.

Now if only my frog guy wasnt so darn depressed. Needs some therapy, methinks.
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Alice
Alice 11 months ago
This game is such a beautiful piece of art like everything you make. There is something about your games that I really enjoy.
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Microfrog
Microfrog 11 months ago
Character is a frog, so +5.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
This is exactly why the game has the average rating it does, "My username and avatar is a frog, if this game has a frog in it, which is completely irrelevant to what makes a game worth playing, I'll give it a five for shits and giggles"
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Microfrog
Microfrog 11 months ago
Alright, then I'll rate it honestly.
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fizzhog
fizzhog 11 months ago
A splendid thing is this. My only qualm is that it should perhaps come with a health warning that an imagination and a liberal conception of 'game' are required; otherwise one has loving concern for the blood pressure levels of certain of one's fellow gamejolt members. It is perhaps a little too bracing for those of a delicate disposition.
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Porpentine
Porpentine 12 months ago
*licks a goblet seductively*
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
Have fun tasting that bloody blue waffle...
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Cicada Marionette
Cicada Marionette 1 year ago
NO! I will NOT play your games again, Mr. "thecatamites"- if that's even your real name! What do you have to hide? I bet it's real juicy! What? What am *I* hiding? Don't try to put this on me! I swear I'm not keeping anything from the police! Here, to be totally transparent let me lay out the events that transpired:

*I started my computer
*I entered my password at the login screen.
*I opened "Chrome" "Internet" "Browser"
*No, I did NOT kiss a toad, Mr. "thecatamites"
*Yes, I *DID* go to gamejoe dot com!!!
*Why do you need to know??
*My pet is a frog, not a toad!

Look, if you MUST know... I do NOT kiss frogs OR toads! I despise your game because it portrays amphibians as foul, base creatures. Did you even consider this? The "toad fancy dot com" forums are considering our options after this serious blow to public image. If you continue I'm going to have to start a "flame war" right here on these very comments! Do NOT tempt me, Mr. "thecatamites"- do NOT!
Your digitoad's honking woke up my neighbors. It woke up three cats. It woke up seventeen children. It woke up a single, tearful baby. An adult shouted into the streets, hoping to find God. No, Mr. "thecatamites", this is not just some game! This is the very end of my social life as we know it. The fine citizens who live in my cul-de-sac will not make eye contact. they sneer and throw rocks at my face. My nose has broken and ants have made a home inside the decaying tissue. They seem very happy- starting a new life like that. But you know what? No one asked me. This all started because your toad- your crud, awful caricature of a TOAD Mr. "thecatamites"- honked and honked and honked all over, made a real fool of me, now my neighbors make fun of me. What do you mean they already did?! How would you know? Oh... I see. Well I still DEMAND you make this game down! I am a very important person and my opinion GOES Mr. "thecatamites". Do you know the word "lawful"? Do you know the word "psychopomp"? Will you finish my English paper for me? Will you sign this form, Dad? Do I know you? Where am I? What's happening? Is this a prison cell? Is this the end?
Well, it looks like it is. No thanks to you, Mr. "thecatamites"- no thanks to you.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
If you were attempting to mock me the very least you could do is make it remotely similar to my comment, notice how I actually gave him critiques, he could take his time to draw the characters instead of giving them all a scribble outline and solid fill color. That doesn't require skill, that alone can be easily achieved on the mouse, freehand in mspaint. Nothing special.

The fact that this many people praise this so called "game" when it's hardly fits the distinction of what a computer game is properly supposed to be, let's say that the copacity of such stupidity is really stretching wat is logical or reasonable.

The gameplay makes no sense, it is very unclear to anyone with a working pair of sober eyes, no one reads videogame manuals, because in real professional game's you'll see (Mario and sonic dating back to the first Nintendo console and Sega genesis) these games even the oldest and crappiest ones coughed up by Nintendo, namco, etc have a better quality and sensation of gameplay than this crap, where as in such games, the objective, controls, everything is very blatant and easy to catch up on without even needing to read a manual, let alone a "how to win" document.

My sister who didn't know anything about game development, game jolt, the calameties, or any of this I showed her the game without telling her anything about it, all said, "hey try out this game let me know what you think". Her instant response, "what the heck is this crap" as she started playing "what am I doing? This is confusing. This game is stupid I'm not playing it"

Her words not mine with no persuation involved. I'm very certain if I showed my old school buddies this or if I picked some random person off the sidewalk I'm sure they'd have enough sense to know this isn't even a game, it's a waste of development and gameplay efforts and it doesn't even fit the common standards of what most games even indie games nowadays go by and pass with flying colors.

When I fall off a cliff I end up somewhere new and no way to get back up other than seemingly starting a new game. Even the ground is glitchy As I walk the green scrible thing (which I hope is a character and not an aimless blob) I find myself constantly intersecting the ground, I can't tell if it's ground or sand or water or lava all I know is it has an unclear texture that doesn't well indicate what it even is, I don't know whether I'm supposed to kill, eat, pray, or talk to the blue doggish looking thing in the Hotel Inn, in a nutshell it's a mindplower that even for a bunch of drunkards or potheads could honestly enjoy this game even during their happy hour in fact it would be a buzz kill.

Being a ratchional person who doesn't waste my life getting drunk or high every weekend, unlike most fans of this incredible "game", I'd say I have them most rational, sober perspective here, where as unlike you guys I know this game sucks. I'm sure why you all even drool on this shit is because it reminds you of your last weed party, and the hallucinations you had therein.

I seriously worry about the future of this miserable planet. Find better things to do with your life than waste it on drugs or games inspired by the likes. If you all were really happy you wouldn't need things like this to rely on in making you happy.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
All this crap you said about nose being broken and ants crawling in no wonder you like this game so much in your very attempt to mock me made a funny read. My comment actually mentioned specifics about the actual gameplay. You just ranted, making a scene speaking of irrelevant nonsense. Did you even try making habit of sense? You make even less sense than this game and I don't know how that is near possible, freak.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
lol seriously like wtf XD
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Cicada Marionette
Cicada Marionette 11 months ago
Furthermore, I'm really really cool and good. If you see someone being bad (word for the opposite of "good"), it's not me. It's you. Definitely you. I really don't like when people do things I don't understand and I want to hurt people who confuse me really bad.
I thought about this then smoked 5000 cigars and wept from underneath my sunglasses. The tears rained down and hit the people I don't like.

Did you know? My sister texted me a picture of her scowling straight at the camera, with no background context, and wouldn't return my calls. I'm worried what this means. Did I do something wrong? I've been going through all my texts and realizing they all are backhanded insults about the opinions I posted on my blog about PC-Engine import titles. Fast forward 3 days: she's inherited the family business and called me a "nerd bird" which wouldn't be insulting except she inherited the family business (not me) (I wanted to inherit it). Life is cruel and I don't understand. I just made up 5 more words so I could try to understand it. Here those words are: "Ummmmhhhhgggg" - "Gluhhhhhhbbbb" - "EEEEEEHHHHGGGGHHH" - "wubbb.... wubbb...." - "BLOOH HOOO HOOO!!! HOO HOO...."

I don't understand this game. Where are my trophies. Where are my achievements. Where are these mysterious echoes coming from. I'm alone in my apartment. Who am I? What is there left of this world?! How do I know which people have done drugs??! Could there be anything else??!!! What if *I* did drugs and didn't know?!!!! (EDITOR'S NOTE: I'VE NEVER DONE DRUGS, BUB, YOU SHOULDA ASKED FIRST!!)

Not quite sure what "bad" is still but I know it's not good! Like... Can you imagine a world without bad games? All the games would be good then! But like, what if... If there were no bad games how would I know a game is good? Would there be a sliding scale of good?! Would that make SOME games LESS good?? Would that make them bad?! What?!! I can't think about it. I blame you. For making me think. It's your fault bad games exist. You disgust me.
Well, I hope you've learned your lesson. I'm going home and tossing N64 controllers at the wall in retaliation to Bad Game Design. Enjoy your night... Not!
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
I'll let you argue with yourself until you rot in the dirt. I'll take no part in such simple nonsense.
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Milkyandingding
Milkyandingding 11 months ago
Have you even considered? There isn't much all I can cal for is "aha! I shant let ye in!". It doesn't even tell me WHAT the f is goin how. Gosh, how many things. Is this even relevant? "He took my hand and put a house on it" I mean what as if you could put a house on your hand lol. When my jaw aligns with my mouse I can feel my teeth grounding. So I don't do that it wise isn't it. I do that when I have a something in my mouse!! Even then I can't begin to comprehend how this point you made has relevance to. I'm yet to reach.

Further more, I am infact the mafia boss Gucci! Haha you didn't think of that did you? It's confidential information though. When I put my headphones on I here this only coming form the left ear. Hmmm... And YOU are arguing! You are the one who hasn't even tried to put the foot through the ground.

Last time I poot my foot on the ground it stayed there not GOING THROUGH the ground. I feel like I have to state every little thing, there are so many issues to discuss. When I became aware that my house was INFACT not able to sit on my hand I laughed. "As is that could happen" "This isn't funny I hate THIS".

Who are we talking here? The house or the mouse. OR the unaligned DOOR! Whatever it is, it doesn't!

Hahaha next thing you're going to do is arguing with my comment!

What If I told you the Herlad Angles were going to come and beat you up! My dog is in-fact friends in-law with them.

Feel free to keep going, have the last word I even dare you.

Last time I was high I was having a great time. I remembe this places where the birds sang and the whales flopped. "My aubergine is bigger THAN yours" lol. "my flip flops flip flop" I was obscured by this words that came out of the mose. "Maybe we can pop down the the laundry and say hi to ol' Dundreary"

I'm going to let you have the final word.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
Yo milky breast, just to make you aware, putting words in my mouth completes the establishment in proving you can't think of anything near valid to say. If perhaps maybe you or by chance someone else could say something that actually applies to anything only then would I feel offended. But the chances of that is like a snowball's chance in hell.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 1 year ago
DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS GAME. ITS A WASTE OF TIME AND DUMB AS FUCK.

The graphics are very unatractive. You suck at drawing I'd rather see pixel art than this ugly shit. It's a bunch of scribbles. The loud obnoxious honking at the top of the screen those random icons appearing make no sense. You must have been tripping on acid when you made this. The objective is very unclear. The objective in all half way decent gams must have a clear, blatant, objective. This game lacks that completely the fact you included in the zip a "how to win" document was a terrible idea as that should be provided within the actual game and not an external document that chances are a lot of people won't read and will wonder the entire time "what the fucking hell am I doing? What is this shit? I don't even know what the fuck I'm looking at?" The people who uprated this shit only did so because they are on drugs and it reminds them of their last trip episode. Worst idea for a game ever. I like Mark Overmars tutorial edits than this shit. Heckthe original pong beats this game's ass hands down.
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Honno
Honno 1 year ago
dont click the fruit
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 12 months ago
Hoe, why would I do that when there is clearly better things for me to do than explore the mind of a typical pot head. :P I'd rather make the most of what I have in life, while you guys spend countless hours one playing and making video games (which is "video game" is just a different term for "toy". Some kids never grow up I'm afraid. It's a sad thing. :(
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
Funny. Because your name supports your comment.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
Excellent point there Rezzy, I'm actually quite thankful to be surround by such primitive creatures, it helps me realize more frequently how much more developed my brain while is compared to such inanimate objects such as yourself. Go cry. :P
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
I don't feel like crying in the hands of a troll. I feel you're more annoying than the GOD DAMNED honking sounds on the top. Hey, a troll needs to get trolled. Not my problem anymore ^-^
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
Calling me super geeky internet slang ("Troll") doesn't hurt anyone or anything other than yourself. It displays you need to get out of your house more (school and college don't count) I have the right to my opinion on this shit of a "game" if you really didn't care than clearly you would've ignored my comment which you clearly didn't do. You're right I'm a troll because I disagree with you. Get into perspective not everyone will agree with you about everything. Grow a penis for god's sake. Welcome to the real world, which I might add isn't the internet...
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
You need to check your vocabulary again. Troll is a internet slang term for 'Prankster'. I am not calling you super geeky I'm simply calling you a complete retard. I get out a lot actually. But for some reason. You think as yourself someone who is 'Talented' Or 'Special'. You're just the same kind of asshole type in which I have for friends. You clearly don't respect anyone for yourself. So get your head out of your ass and be glad you're not a mentally challenge person.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
Haha. I didn't say you were calling me geeky dum ass I was calling you that. Is your head on right?
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
"Calling me super geeky internet slang ("Troll") doesn't hurt anyone or anything other than yourself." Clearly it did. Now, you might be thinking I'm raging when I'm actually laughing at your stupidity. Obviously your head isn't on right.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
Oh really? Oh my, what shall I ever do? You know, harassing people over the internet because of a simple disagreement... I don't even want to know...:)
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
I think I shall give this game a 2 for effort on making a game this bad. "Kill" "Eat" "HONKHONKHONKHONK" Thanks for changing my mind. Euugh.
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Cicada Marionette
Cicada Marionette 11 months ago
rezzy... no... i believed in you
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
Well, he did put up a good arguement. Good show.
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Cicada Marionette
Cicada Marionette 11 months ago
NO! I won't accept this! Rezzy... Do you remember? When you fought on the side of Goblet Grotto? Can't you see... Is there anything decent left in you? Rezzy... This isn't the Rezzy I know! I'll never accept you now! I hate you Rezzy! I hate you!
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Tobistein
Tobistein 11 months ago
Cicada...





stop bitching.
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Cicada Marionette
Cicada Marionette 11 months ago
NO!!!!!!!!!!!
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
Is there a rational reason you guys are still commenting on this?
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Cicada Marionette
Cicada Marionette 11 months ago
NOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
Perfect, now all you have to do is do me a favor and shut up and quit acting like you're wasted. :) See? It's not that hard.
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Cicada Marionette
Cicada Marionette 11 months ago
NO!!!! NOO!!!!!!
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
lol what I retard I don't have time for this brain injury of yours.
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
I can't blame him...
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Cubia
Cubia 11 months ago
Oooookay.

Here's what I, and probably most people, got from your "review" and this entire thread:

"Hello there! I'm Nobody Cares, which sums up people's opinions on what I say! I enjoy being an insulting jerkblob instead of providing anything even resembling constructive criticism! If I do not understand a game or if it does not fit within my exceedingly limited views of what a game is, I'm going to think it's terrible, because I just dont get it, which MUST mean it's bad, because I am the Great and All Important Me! Incidentally, I'm 12 and just learned how to use swear words yesterday, so I'm going to jam them in random places into my "review"! It makes me sound smrt! I mean smart! I know how to use the word "retard" too! I must prove my superiority by responding in a jerkwad way to any further arguements or posts in this thread!'

Based on all of this, I'm thinking you're likely not very good at reviewing.... or much else.... and thus, the low score that you gave the game and the fact that you think it's bad probably means it's actually quite good, and that I should definitely try it out soon. Useful to know!

And with that, I bid you a good day, sir.
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
One thumbs up for you.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
It is very unfortunate that I would have to come to this. Please use your brains dear children, welcome to your first day real life as blatant as it is. I drew two versions of the same idea, a visual of "the demon of lust". Both of which are my work inspired by my creativity and imagination. Only one of them however truly reflects the definition of real art and style.

Image A, which I drew freehand in thirty minutes, notice the clean sharp edges. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79893663/Obvious%20Reality%20Simplified%20for%20Simple%20Minds/The%20Demon%20of%20Lust%20A%20Thumb.png

Image B. Which I drew in thirty seconds, notice it well matches and reflects the small efforts put into Goblet Grotto's seamlessly perfect, lovely attractive, *cough* sloppy, rushed, ugly, scribble-outlined graphics: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79893663/Obvious%20Reality%20Simplified%20for%20Simple%20Minds/The%20Demon%20of%20Lust%20B%20Thumb.png

I know you guys are obviously going to retaliate emotionally by making the radical psychotic claim image B is somehow better or that they both suck. and if you guys try to convince me of why you might feel image A sucks please do me a favor and show me that you can cough up anything on a sheet of paper looking anywhere near as decent which you aren't capable of.

You guys can argue until it drives yourself crazy why you feel my art sucks or why Goblet Grotto's graphics don't, it won't hurt anyone or anything other than yourself.

I'd love to stop discussing this since none of you are the creators of this game, my critiques were directed at him and none of you. If he replies to my comment and acts like as much of an animal as you all, I will then see he is not receptive to improvement or change for the better, I will then stop forcing the obvious truth. If he replies and considers the real knowledge I possess and share, only then will I continue to talk as of now. If you guys are wanting to get horny and masturbate to such ugly shit and poor excuses for games then I won't stop you. I can see you guys are incapable of taking real, honest, sober criticism. It's funny because the criticism wasn't directed all everyone who replied. None of you even told an existing rebuttal for the things I mentioned. A sad world we live in to think such idiots didn't go extinct in prehistoric dinosaur age.
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CROS
CROS 11 months ago
This thread is a gold mine! Thank you, everyone. I shall now follow this thread forevs.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
I'm not blind to the reality you guys think annoying me is funny. To think I was called a troll. Okay. That makes sense. :)
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
Hi CROS, welcome to the conversation, Also, Considering that Cubia actually described how you act is pin on. Now listen. From a kids perspective I would say that it's actually good. From your view it looks like someone shat on your mother. (That is if you love anyone from your family)Cubia is right. You don't provide any kind of constructive criticism. Neither do you respect anyone, it makes NO sense why you need to go about making someone feel bad for a game that was MENT to be this way, so stop.
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Cubia
Cubia 11 months ago
Wow, Mr. Cares, you did EXACTLY as I knew you would after I wrote up that post. Funny, how damn predictable that was....

Also, seriously? If you think the GRAPHICS are the main problem with this game.... then there's no helping you, and I'm utterly baffled as to what you're even DOING at a site meant for indie games. With a game like this one, I can pretty much guarantee that everything is done the way it is ON PURPOSE. Seriously, this isnt rocket science.

Games like this, and so very many others, are about more than just the graphics. That being said though.... simply because YOU dont like the aesthetics doesnt actually make them bad. I think it all fits the game's crazy atmosphere pretty well.

As for us thinking annoying you is funny? No. Not at all.

You ACTING the way you do is funny. Particularly as the rest of us have likely seen your type so many times before.... often in places like Youtube comments. Entertains me to no end, and predictable as hell. I knew you'd be mentioning graphics again soon, and bam, I was right, and THAT is funny.

Oh, and also? If the developer isnt listening to your posts.... maybe, hmm, it could POSSIBLY potentially be because you're ACTING LIKE AN ASSLAMP. I dont even know what an asslamp is, but you've managed to act like one. Congratulations.


And welcome, CROS. It is rather amusing, isnt it?
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
Did you guys ever just stop and think for a more minute? This isn't rocket science. It's not just the graphics I already explained in depth the dumb glitches, game play that doesn't provide an objective or story. Unless you read the stupid "How to win" manual you'll have no idea wtf is going on or what your doing, or what is considered winning. These kind of things need to be clear in-game don't take my word for it look at early Nintendo or Sega genesis games they all have a clear, easy to pick up and catch on story, objective and how to win in the game.

When the character I played as in Goblet Grotto went on specific land, he sunk into the land up to his neck, I didn't know what the fuck I was in, lava, water, mud, or glitchy land. I couldn't tell what its whas strongly due to a bad choice of texture.

I'm repeating myself it's like I'm talking to a bunch of mentally I'll retards. But that's just it, that's exactly what I'm doing. But worse than that what else is there the accurately compare such behaviour, rocks? Single celled organisms? That would be giving you guys way too much credit. Have fun laughing at me. :P

You really don't think it's funny it's just you know everything I've said is true so you resort to "shielding" your cry baby emotions up with fake arrogance.

No one has yet made a single valid point and until one has been made I'll have enough self control (unlike all you faggots) to keep my mouth shut no matter how badly I might want to shuv truth down your throats. I'm not going to reply on this anymore not because I can't defend myself, you guys are rather predictable yourselves, I know you'll make the radical claim I have nothing else to say or I know you're right or whatever. That's because you are so very predictable. To clarify for all these poor injured heads, I'm gonna lpkeep my mouth shut because I have an ounce of a brain and don't take pleasure in strife. We aren't packs of wild dogs I will refuse to let this persist. If you want to act like wild hogs save that for YouTube or anyone else just not me.
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Cubia
Cubia 11 months ago
"Crybaby emotions'? "Retards"?

Ye gods, you're not very good at this, are you? You'd already used the "retards" one in retarded format earlier. Get with the program! Try harder! At the very least come up with insults that are creative. Any PROPER troll knows how to do THAT. You're rather scraping the bottom of the barrel, here. It's kinda sad. Back in my day, we had real trolls that used proper insults without repeating themselves or resorting to overused tactics! They were downright creative at times! Trolls these days, I swear, they aint a shade on what we had back in the good ol' days.

And you cant handle the game because you didnt read the MANUAL? Ahhhh.... this generation of gamers cracks me up to no end. They really do. Yet you mention the NES/SNES era.... I can think of LOTS of games where you were EXPECTED to read the manual, and good luck getting anywhere if you didnt. Something tells me you're only knowledgeable about the simplest and most common games of that generation. I myself am *very* familiar with that era of gaming, so bringing it up to "put me in my place" by making yourself look knowledgeable isnt gonna work.

The most entertaining part though is that you're the ONLY one in here that thinks you're correct, yet you act so superior.... and no, nobody is going to make the "radical claims" you mentioned. A troll like yourself is likely incapable of realizing when you're in the wrong.... or admitting to it..... and a troll like you will ALWAYS have something else to say, but will often hide behind the "Oh, I'm so much SMARTER than you, so I dont even need to comment anymore. BUH-BYE." sort of line. So yeah.... so much for any of us making those predictable remarks, eh?

While you, however.... are continuing in exactly the way that I've seen a thousand times over.

And really.... if you're gonna troll, put some damn EFFORT into it. You're boring everyone that puts effort into reading your posts. That's almost rude.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
Are you really this determined to annoy me just because you don't like my view on this game? I do not care about discussing this why you do is beyond me.

People won't always agree with you. No big deal. Nothing to get worked up about. Okay?
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
I'm one of the few in this discussion who hasn't used all caps. Why? Because I know I don't need such emphasis to get my point across whether you guys agree or not.

So why are you using all caps? Emotional weirdos - case closed.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
Yes. I'm a troll even though from your own words it seems you know a lot more about how to be a troll than I do. I'm not even being a troll, if you want to get technical, Troll is a geeky internet term used by overweight, lazy, selfish, geeky, computer and internet addicts.

I have never heard that term in this particular context used anywhere of other than on the internet, where fat ugly people with no lives roam free. All my friends, family and everyone else I associate with in person do not use that term. Why? Maybe it's because they aren't computer geeks. They have real, selfless, productive lives much like mine.

Because you are so predictable you'll probably say I have no friends, which I know is not true so it can't hurt a fly. Knock yourself out kid.
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
As I said earlier,
"You need to check your vocabulary again. Troll is a internet slang term for 'Prankster'. I am not calling you super geeky I'm simply calling you a complete retard. I get out a lot actually. But for some reason. You think as yourself someone who is 'Talented' Or 'Special'. You're just the same kind of asshole type in which I have for friends. You clearly don't respect anyone for yourself. So get your head out of your ass and be glad you're not a mentally challenge person." Clearly you did not understand that troll is not a meaning for "overweight, lazy, selfish, geeky, computer and internet addicts." So you just called yourself all of the above. Congratulations.
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Cubia
Cubia 11 months ago
Oh dear. I must say, "fat", "overweight" or "ugly" are three of the rare words that have never been thrown at me. In truth, I'm rather thin and kinda girly looking; I've no trouble admitting this.... though the other terms you use, yes indeed, they be true. DEFINITELY lazy, that one comes from a lack of any need to have a job... which certainly leads to a lack of productivity, unless I'm coding or repairing something for someone. See? It's not so hard to admit to things, now is it?

And you STILL havent grasped what we have been trying to tell you, have you? Normally I'm astonishingly sarcastic, having invented the concept and all, and also really irritable, but I'll be more serious about this one.

The reason why everyone is taking issue with you is NOT your view on the game, actually. It's fine if you dont like a game. Nothing wrong with that. There's no such thing as a game that can please EVERYONE, and I personally find that it's best that any given developer make the game that THEY want to make, that THEY want to play, without simply giving into popular demand. Nothing wrong with that either.

No, the problem we had was the way you ACTED. Your attitude and tone, so to speak. There are two different types of feedback that can be brought to a product or concept that you do not like. Number one, is called constructive criticism. If I have to explain that one to you, please go bash your head against a tree for 5 minutes as punishment for derpiness. Number two is called "being a flaming jackass". There was no reason to act the way you did. You could have presented your various arguements in a calm, polite manner.... and nobody would have had any problems with them. Oh, people might have posted counter-arguements, but not in an angry fashion (theoretically); it would be proper, simple debate in that case, which is a fine way to discuss things.

But no. You threw out insults and swear words, and generally made a damn fool of yourself. Regardless of how dumb.... or intelligent.... you may actually be, you come across as having the IQ of a broken chair when you act like that. Surely you've been on the Net enough to encounter that sort of idiocy, yes? It's kinda hard not to, as people doing that are all over the place. I swear 75% of them are on Youtube, but that's a whole other topic. That sort of behavior is indeed that of a troll.

As for me? I'm good at wrapping words around someone until a desired effect happens, and I call it "counter-trolling". I'm persistent as hell and can keep it up for WEEKS. Occaisionally done to see how long the other will keep it up on their end. But I stick the word "counter" in there as I only ever do it to those who are acting in such a way as to rather deserve it. Hitting someone like that with a blast of their own medicine.... particularly a super extended-over-time sort.... is my preferred response to jackassery. You'd be surprised at the effects it can have, if given enough time.

And in this case, you were definitely deserving of it. I needed no time to come to that conclusion, after the way you acted.

And it's worth your time to really THINK about it. Not just instantly bash those striking at you, but to THINK about why they may be doing it. It's a chance to improve, and make others more willing to listen to what you have to say in the future, rather than them just saying "what an ass" and brushing you off without hesitation.

The question is.... what will you do now? Will you indeed consider the points made, and accept the simple fact that there was indeed no reason to act that way, and the fact that it was, perhaps, wrong? Or will you continue to be that way regardless of anything else? I'd think hard about it, if I were you.

I await your response with interest.
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Tobistein
Tobistein 11 months ago
What I realize is that he hates being outsmarted, and his comments are always negative.


Also what an asshole. He needs to check his vocabulary AGAIN.
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
Yeah that's pretty much the point, he doesn't get that he's whining over a game that's made to be this way. So he's making a fuss over nothing. Temper tantrum much?
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
"I'm making a fuss". :P or is it just that you guys are fussing and belittling me just because you don't understand my point of view.

This is a very common thing, where someone who disagrees with majority is often ridiculed and mocked over a silly disagreement.

Also, to intentionally make a game with sloppy, ugly graphics , if that was really his intention clearly he should've been able to cough up a single game with real graphics. Look at his other games he clearly inst capable of anything better. To release a game with intentionally terrible graphics if you ask me is even worse than than releasing a game and not being aware it has bad graphics.

I'm not whining all I know is the more I express my view the more guy whine, accuse me of lying, harass me with insults, wtf? Lol :P

Now you are having side conversations about me saying things that make as little sense as like if the moon made out of cheese.

I somehow figured this would happen in fact I saw it coming, you guys don't ever surprise me. I've had a lot of experiences where I disagree with a majority group and I use my right in expressing my view simply because just like you guys I have that right. And there's nothing wrong with that. Okay I admit it was wrong to be so harsh I actually meant to help if you even think for half a minute you'd realize that.

Believe it or not I meant zero harm maybe I was a bit harsh but yeah my overall intention was to convince this guy of getting in a art class, and observe existing proffesional games and their gameplay assets more so he can do better.

My vote on this game is currently 1 but it's not like I did that to demotivate him, I know this game has much more potential, I don't care it can still that being stoned kind of feel since that's what he's shooting for but the key points I already outlined are very clear and I believe within his reach.

Now was there any reason for guys to dog pile on me and cause crap just because I expressed myself which apparently you guys think you have more of a right to that than I do? What excuse do you have in that? It's not that big of a deal you guys are predictable I knew as it was coming you want to argue by the paragraphs by the pages and you try to say something that you know will make me want to waste my own time and say something back by the paragraphs and pages.

The difference? I could've made my comment and that could've been it. But no you guys could waste your life away arguing on the internet while trying so hard to get me to fall in that trap of yours that is set to get me wasting my time arguing as well.

Okay? So can you all just lay off? Is it really so big of a deal that we must discuss this for this long? Anything more important for you guys to do? I know I do and I'd rather do those more important things but you guys are so obsessed with wasting your lives you don't realize I've had enough and your wasting mine.
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
So you have the rights to say something bad over someone elses comment? It makes no sense to go to someone who likes the game and dis them. So you're wasting your own time making fun of something that that like... Nice try there.
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Tobistein
Tobistein 11 months ago
"DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS GAME. ITS A WASTE OF TIME AND DUMB AS FUCK.

The graphics are very unatractive. You suck at drawing I'd rather see pixel art than this ugly shit. It's a bunch of scribbles. The loud obnoxious honking at the top of the screen those random icons appearing make no sense. You must have been tripping on acid when you made this. The objective is very unclear. The objective in all half way decent gams must have a clear, blatant, objective. This game lacks that completely the fact you included in the zip a "how to win" document was a terrible idea as that should be provided within the actual game and not an external document that chances are a lot of people won't read and will wonder the entire time "what the fucking hell am I doing? What is this shit? I don't even know what the fuck I'm looking at?" The people who uprated this shit only did so because they are on drugs and it reminds them of their last trip episode. Worst idea for a game ever. I like Mark Overmars tutorial edits than this shit. Heckthe original pong beats this game's ass hands down."

Like I said, negative. Go cry to Valhalla or gtfo of here.
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Cubia
Cubia 11 months ago
Well, that's.... a bit better, at least, then, sort of. Though, I must say.... if it's such a waste of time, why do you keep responding? It's not like you NEED to. In my own case, I have nothing but free time, all the time, and it takes me only a minute or two to write up any post, so.....

Anyway, like I said, everyone only "dog piled" you because of how you acted. Nothing more than that.

Though, I will say this: Trying to tell the designer that they should go take an art class is pointless. It's a simple fact that many designers/coders are not artists. This is one reason why you see alot of indie games with minimalist or even abstract art, as those do not require much, if anything, in the way of drawing skills to create. The only real alternative to this, for some developers, is to use stock art taken from sites that offer it.

At times though, yes, artstyles like the one seen in this game ARE done entirely on purpose. There are many games out there that do this.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
I make games not because I can or I know how to code I do it because I know I can do it right. People who can't do it right shouldn't be spoon fed or catered to. They really shouldn't be allowed to share their games on the net all it does is clog appstores and online game sites with toilet paper and shit

Bye.
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Cubia
Cubia 11 months ago
Oh dear. And here I thought you were on the verge of learning something. I suppose I should have realized how silly that was, for me to think that such a thing was possible. It would seem I was correct the first time: You clearly have the IQ of a broken chair. Hmmm.... though maybe I shouldnt say that. It'd be an insult to the poor chair.

You SERIOUSLY dont understand what an "opinion" is, do you? You may not like the game. But have you noticed that other people do? A simple fact then, is that your thoughts are nothing more than an opinion, and one that doesnt seem much agreed with. Guess who is in the minority here, and thus most likely to be incorrect? I'll answer for you: It's you.

It'd be the same if I were to go and start saying things like, I dunno, a game like Halo being"utter crap". Indeed, I am not fond of that game one bit. Hate it, in fact. But would I go around insulting it or it's creators like that? Hell no! This being that I actually understand that simply because *I* dont like it, that doesnt mean it's bad. Other people CLEARLY like it quite a bit, after all. If I were to then go and insult it ANYWAY, knowing this, it'd be both arrogant and phenomenally stupid. I dont like that game, but that doesnt mean at all that it isnt good.

Hint: That infers that what YOU are doing is both arrogant and phenomenally stupid. I am telling you this directly because I'm guessing you would not have been able to pull that connection out of that previous statement.

I would analyze your ways of thinking and such before you even CONSIDER uploading a game to this site, because it's obvious that you simply are not even remotely close to ready for that yet. You'll be immediately making an assumption that your views and ideas are correct, and that your game WILL immediately be good simply because you, with all of the skill (hah), will be making it. Surprise, this is the WRONG approach to take. It can only have one effect: Making your final product worse. In other words.... you're not able to "do it right" and make the best game you can make. Not yet. You'd end up with something mediocre, not meeting it's potential, because you lack the insight to see what proper "design" truly means. Hint: It's not graphics.

As it is, all you're doing here is merely proving that the rest of us are right, and that it's a nice game with interesting ideas. Why do I say this? Simple: Because someone who really understands gaming as a whole also understands that graphics do not equal a game being good or bad. They're merely the icing on the cake. Can you guess what part of any game the "cake" actually is? I'm thinking you probably cant, as with damn near every other graphics-obsessed gamer I've ever met. Not even one of them has managed to correctly answer that one.

You may as well head back to your shallow world of shiny graphics, then. Your presence here accomplishes little and is merely disruptive and annoying. Though, *I* am sure finding it amusing. By all means, keep entertaining me.
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
Hey, you want something to judge, go judge this. http://gamejolt.com/games/rpg/black-horror/15423/ Leave this game alone. Also, Cubia is completely right, you're making a complete piece of crap outa yourself. Go do politics, they need someone like you.
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CROS
CROS 11 months ago
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Don't_feed_the_Troll
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
Cros, did it ever occur to you that I'm not the mindless troll that you oddly make me out to be? That I actually have reasons for the things I say? And it's not because I'm some god damned weirdo who takes pleasure in "trolling"? And that I have the right to my opinion just as anyone else should have? You guys don't even see you are verbally raping me just because you don't agree.

I'm not even trying to argue, troll or whatever the god damned fuck you think I'm doing, in short, I'm only reacting to being verbally raped. The more I make it clear to just leave me a lone the more you won't do that. What the hell? And I'm the troll? Yeahh right. Open mouth. Insert foot.
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
Deliberately angering people.

Breaking the normal flow of debate/discussion.

Disrupting the smooth operation of the site.

Deliberately being annoying for the sake of being obnoxious. For instance, using abusive names to refer to all the members on the site.

Pretending to be profoundly ignorant or stupid, gleaning

some weird sense of having "won" when other users subsequently come to believe this.

Making itself the main topic of interest or discussion.[

Good job. You've successfully become all of the above.
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
As if I was doing any of those things when I think a game is shit I won't lie and give it 5 stars. I will give it a one followed by a list of things a to improve. Yeah, I came across rube but is there really a need to rape me over something so silly?. It takes two or more to tango my comment isn't what did it - it was psychotic reactions that tipped this ship overpoard. Either way it's no big deal you all these people are trying so hard to make it a big deal.

But I really don't care who started it. The fact is I'm minding my own business and just about every other hour I'm getting email notifications of this bull crap. I know I can turn that off in my profile settings but I shouldn't have to. This is water under the bridge I don't care to talk about this anymore which you guys keep on running your mouth I should've just ignored these replies to begin with I can't even defend my perspective without being raped.
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
I wouldn't consider it raping. (Trust me, I know raping) I'll stop replying if YOU ALL OTHER PEOPLE STOP. THIS FLIPPIN FLAME WAR IS OVER. IT'S A GAME GOD DAMN IT. END OF STORY. Also, don't even reply anymore dude, it'll just keep goin. I don't want this comment section into a book. Alright? Alright.
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Cubia
Cubia 11 months ago
Hmmm.... Cros has a point. Feed the troll TOO much and he may explode, and I'm not about to clean it up.

That and it's getting boring, and Sir Troll doesnt seem to have learned anything anyway. Too bad. Just ONCE I'd like to see one of them come away from these sorts of things having learned at least a BIT why not to act that way. Aint happened yet.

Oh well. Off to greener pastures, then.
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Jaeo'b Studios
Jaeo'b Studios 11 months ago
Cubia, drop it. It's over. We already have a freaking book full. Just stop alright?
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Cubia
Cubia 11 months ago
Yes, I"m aware. I already said I was done, that's what the "greener pastures" line means. Though perhaps I shoulda used a different, more direct line.

Either way, my work here is done. Later, all.
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chappedlocust
chappedlocust 5 months ago
I don't believe you, Nobody Cares.

You claim you aren't a troll, but you go out of your way to verbally abuse people with a bit of talent - then bitch and moan when people peg you back. You're fully willing to mock someone else's work - something that they probably put a lot of effort into, mind you - but the moment someone comments on one of your shitty little comments, suddenly you become a victim - some sort of martyr for your campaign against the dreaded 'art' game.

Not only that, but you list yourself as a 'developer,' yet when I jumped on your page it was void of anything remotely resembling a game of your own craft.

You know what I did find? People telling you off for being an asshole on their own game-comments pages. You are a troll - and a hypocritical, projecting one at that.

So fuck you, cuntsock. If you're going to keep this shit up, it'll be your own goddamned fault when you get kicked from the community.

Oh, and Thecatamites? Great game. Funny look at the classic RPG formula. Keep up the good work, and don't listen to sorts like this waste of bandwidth.
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CriticalHit
CriticalHit 1 year ago
Demented genius
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Samuel Venable
Samuel Venable 11 months ago
If you find demented-ness to be a good thing look at demented in the dictionary and your penis with lose it's erection.
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